On Wednesday (Feb. 17), former NFL player Herschel Walker voiced his opposition to Black Americans receiving reparations during a Congressional hearing.

Walker, who played in the USFL and NFL for over 14 years, joined conservative commentator Larry Elder in the discussion. The ex-running back said reparations would produce “white guilt” and that Black people should practice forgiveness because slavery happened so long ago. “We use Black power to create white guilt. My approach is Biblical: how can I ask my Heavenly Father to forgive me if I can’t forgive my brother?” the former Dallas Cowboys star said during the House Judiciary Subcommittee on the Constitution, Civil Rights and Civil Liberties.

Walker went on to say that no one is “dying” to leave America. “America is the greatest country in the world for me, a melting pot of a lot of great races, a lot of great minds that have come together with different ideas to make America the greatest country on Earth,” he added. “Many have died trying to get into America. No one is dying trying to get out.”

He also questioned how Black people would be required to show their “percentage of Blackness” to qualify for reparations. “Reparations, where does the money come from?” asked the Heisman Trophy winner. “Does it come from all the other races except the Black taxpayers? Who is Black? What percentage of Black must you be to receive reparations? Do you go to 23andMe or a DNA test to determine the percentage of Blackness?”

The former football star also said that some Black people don’t have ancestors who were slaves. “Some American ancestors just came to this country 80 years ago, their ancestors weren’t even here during slavery,” he added. “Some Black immigrants weren’t here during slavery, nor their ancestors. Some states didn’t even have slavery.”

After speaking to his mother about reparations, Walker said he believes it “is outside the teaching of Jesus Christ” and he compared it to the Biblical proverb about giving someone a fish instead of teaching them how to fish.

Check out Walker’s discussion below.